Tactical Seminar 
Stardate 10509.23 1700 
Conference Room #Tactical 
Hosted By: Lt Grey-feather CTO of the USS Arondight
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Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
:: standing up on stage getting ready :: Liu: Please come and have a seat

CTO_Liu says:
Grey-feather: Thank you Lieutenant. Don't mind if I do. I reckon I'm early? ::takes a seat at the front::

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
:: enters the room and looks around::

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
::Spotting another Starfleet officer, moves to sit near Liu::

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Raiser: Howdy lieutenant come in and have a seat

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Both: Yeah I was hoping for  a few more, give them a couple more minutes if you two don't mind?

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Grey_feather: Thank you Lieutenant, I thought I was going to be late ::smiles::

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Grey_feather: Not at all ::turns to Liu:: Liu: Hi, I'm Cathy ::extends hand::

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
:: grins :: Raiser: That makes two of us, have to remember to set my watch for this

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
:: shakes hand:: Raiser: Pleasure to meat you Cathy, I'm Len.

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Liu: Good to meet you

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
:: walks to the edge of the stage and sits on his haunches :: Both: and I am Joshua

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Grey-feather: Good to know ::laughs lightly::

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
Grey-feather: It's a pleasure Joshua. Grey-feather and Raiser: So, what vessels or stations do you serve on?

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Liu: I am stationed aboard the Arondight

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Liu: I serve on the USS Broadsword

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Liu: And you?

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
Raiser: Oh she must be a real beauty. Akira Class. I serve on the Vesuvius.

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Liu: She's a beauty, a lot of maintenance required though. 

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Liu: Well there is a lot to be said for the Galaxy classes still

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
Raiser: Lot's of love these ships need. ::laughs::

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Both: Definitely. ::pauses:: How long have you two been CTO?

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
Grey-feather: Indeed. ::smiles::

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Both: Well I guess we should get started :: stands back up and walks over retrieving a small bin and pours the contents on the floor in front of the CTOs::

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
::looks in interest at the 'junk'::

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Both: You know what this pile is?

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
Raiser: A little under a year. Grey-feather: Ah, interesting. I presume these are weapons?

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Grey_feather: Er, materials for making 'things', like Liu said, weapons perhaps

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Liu: No just junk parts from different places in the ship or at least that’s what they are now.  With the right knowledge then these are weapons

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Raiser: You hit the nail on the head

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
Grey-feather: Ahh. I see.

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
::nods head ::

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
:: holds up a short piece of data cable and two washers :: Both: Any guesses what I can do with this?

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Grey_Feather: Could you make a weighted, throwing type weapon?

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
Grey-feather: I'd sure love to know. An explosive perhaps?

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Raiser: Maybe but you would not have to get the balance.  :: quickly ties the two washers to the cable one at each end:: But a garrote is another matter  :: grins ::

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Both: You can, depending on the size of your opponent, do anything from strangulation to decapitation

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Grey_Feather: I see, nice concealed weapon that

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
::rubs her neck briefly::

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Raiser: Indeed easy to carry with you.

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
Grey-feather: Ahh. A good weapon when utilizing Thugee, an ancient martial art from Earth's India. The art of strangulation. Only they used a sash instead of a cable of course.

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Both: Now since replicators will not create anything harmful unless overridden by command staff, what could you get out of a replicator that could be used for perimeter defense or disabling the enemies transports?

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Grey_Feather: Cutlery? Like a fork?

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Liu: Very good lieutenant, the past is a treasure trove of information especially some ethnic backgrounds  :: turns briefly to show his ponytail kept in traditional native American style::

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Raiser: Yes but gauge you attack on the weapon, fork you would concentrate on the eyes or soft tissue

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Both: I feel a bit under cultured ::grins:: Me and my pale Martian skin

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
:: reaches behind him and places a pile of green mud looking stuff on the stage in front of the two with a clear container full of a brownish liquid ::

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Both: Any guesses? :: big grin ::

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Grey feather: Could you throw it, like a mud slinger? ::returns the grin::

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Raiser: Mars has seen its history splashed with combat too, there is always things to learn from your past.

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
Grey-feather: A ktarian recipe gone bad perhaps? ::chuckles::

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
::Laughs :: Raiser: You could but nobody would shake hands afterwards.  Liu: No this is a recipe that is going to be good

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Grey feather: Now you have me curious

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
Grey-feather: Perhaps it's thick enough to use as a smothering agent?

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
:: pointing to the liquid:: Both: This is a petroleum fuel oil, something we haven’t used in centuries but easy to replicate.  :: points to the other:: And this is what comes out of the south end of a northbound cow

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Grey feather: Ahh, a crude form of explosives maybe?

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Raiser: Very good, the two combined make a crude yet extremely powerful explosive.  Stable yet easily detonated

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Grey feather: And you can get this from the replicator? ::grins:: My CO shouldn't know this fact

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
Grey-feather: Interesting. My journey's have taken me to past timelines before. So archaic devices such as these may come in handy.

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Both: I cannot take credit entirely.  A friend of mine was under attack and he rigged barrels of this stuff and transported it aboard the enemy ship with mercury switches for detonators.  My friend won

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
Grey-feather: Is the effect merely concussive? Or does the dung solidify into something resembling shrapnel? What type of explosive radius are we looking at here?

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Grey-feather: That must have been quite devastation on board.

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Both: One 55 gallon drum of this stuff would take out an entire deck on a galaxy class

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
Grey-feather: My word, that's outstanding for such simple materials!

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Both: Wrap a steel cable or chair around the barrel and the shrapnel will do the deed

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Both: Wow, much more powerful than sending just a few stun or photon grenades

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Both: They used to use it for mining, blow up whole mountains with this stuff

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Grey-feather: I can see it being dangerous in the wrong hands, especially because it is so simple

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Raiser: But that is what you need is simplicity.  You get stranded with an away team you don't want to use your emergency replicator for weapons, you will need food and medical.  This is the stuff you can make with little or no replicator around

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Grey-feather: That is true, it is good to be prepared - before these things happen.

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
Grey-feather: Very economical. Important during times of war, when resources might be running low.

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Both: You both are thinking along the same lines.  I drill my tactical and security people in the use of hand to hand weapons.  You can make a knife or spear out of any metal and some wood

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
:: Picks up her PADD and writes down a few notes::

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Both: Now you have intruders in engineering what can you do to take them down with limited resources?

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Grey-feather: A few well placed stun grenades, but since we have limited resources I'd have to say...er... piece of metal ::scratches her head::

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
Grey-feather: It really depends on what the circumstances are, the condition of the vessel, the intruders themselves.

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Liu: Good point

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
::grins mischievously :: Both: Ever considered a good old fashion drowning?

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Both: The vessel is operational and the intruders are say Cardassian for example

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Grey-feather: Could you take out the air from the area?

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
Grey-feather: That would be an excellent idea. The risk of damage to the  warp core would be minimal as well.

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Raiser: Perhaps but what if you could not get control of the life support?

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
Grey-feather: It will work, unless our intruders were amphibious.

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Grey-feather: There were some very barbaric ways of drowning a person in the 20th century, but I don't think you mean those ::shakes her head::

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Liu: Ah you are thinking of using fresh water, potable water...why?

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Both: How about closing the doors to engineering and purging the waste management system into the room

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Both: Yes I know...not pretty...not breathable either

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Grey-feather: And a nightmare for the Engineering to clean up, but I see where you are going with it.

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
Grey-feather: Sounds like a plan, and a heck of a clean up job afterwards. Limited resources may mean that self cleaning systems are down too!

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Raiser: Yes but at least you will all be alive to yell at each other about it

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
Grey-feather: I guess we should wear our EVA's into the room afterwards!

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Both: ::Laughs:: If it saves lives of our crew, then it has to be a good idea

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Both: Be willing to sacrifice parts of your ship as well in its own defense

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Grey-feather: We tend to forget to use the ship's systems for unconventional use.

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
Raiser: Excellent point Lieutenant. I will be sure to keep this in mind in the future.

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Raiser: That we do.  A turbolift in lockdown with on grenade wired into the access will take out a squad of intruders

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Grey-feather: I am sure the lives of the crew are more important than the ship

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Both: :: with a deadly serious look:: If it meant saving my crew...my family, I  would destroy the ship in a heartbeat.  If I had to tie the escape pods to the backs of shuttles to get everyone home

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
::nods solemnly:: It is the sworn duty of the TO to protect the lives of the crew

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Both: I was unable to save the captains wife and twin boys from the Borg.  It will haunt me till the day I die

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
Grey-feather: I'm sure you did all you can Lieutenant.

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Grey_Feather: I am sorry to hear that... I am fortunate that I have not encountered a dire situation like that yet in my career.

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Grey_Feather: I am sure it drives to improve and fight even harder against the foes of the Federation

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Both: That is why I agreed to this seminar is so that no other tactical officer need to be haunted like this.  Use what is at hand, even Klingons consider that an honorable fight

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
Grey-feather: I was trained in the area of battle by a Klingon.

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Liu: My best friend...my brother is a Klingon.

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
Both: Speaking of the Borg, I'm eager to know of your strategies if Borg intruded your vessel.

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Liu: Isolate them ASAP so they cannot inflict further damage

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Liu:That is why I keep a few of these in our armory :: reaches behind his back and pulls out a large caliber firearm :: Never met a Borg shield it couldn’t get through

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
Raiser: Yes indeed. Both: I think TR-116's are an ideal weapon to use against them. Their personal shields are slow adapting to physical non energy based harm.

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Both: I am curious, would a bladed weapon work? Like a katana or Bat'leth?

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
:: pulls the slide back and cycles the weapon :: Both: Well this one is a might older than a TR-116, but it gets the point across

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Raiser: It would but the Borg are quick to anticipate physical attacks

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Grey_Feather: How does that weapon work? ::leans forward to look at the weapon closer::

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
Raiser: Yes they would. I personally carry a tritanium curved edge samurai sword. I train my officer's to use melee weapons. When used properly, even Borg can't defend against them.

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Raiser: Chemical explosion in a vectored chamber.  Carbon, sulfur, paraffin, and a compound that is a form of salt.

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
:: hears his padd beeping :: Aloud: Now that thing works.  Both: Well I am out of time sorry to say

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Liu: I am sure they make a great secondary weapon. The only disadvantage is you need to be relatively close to do damage. I have seen some lose their cool when facing even simulations of the Borg

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
Raiser: Indeed.

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Grey_Feather: That is unfortunate. Thank you very much for the information, I hope next time I can teach you something ::Smiles::

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
Both: Yes I  must get going now as well. It was a pleasure meeting you both. Thank you so much Mr. Grey-feather, for your very informative lecture.

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Raiser: I look forward to it :: smiles ::

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Liu: Thank you lieutenant for the praise

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Liu: Great to meet you, Lieutenant Liu. Both: Go well

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
Both: May we meet again. And all the best.

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
::remains seated, reviewing her notes::

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Both: Good night to the both of you.  May your journeys be long and full of adventure

CTO_Lt_Liu says:
::Gets up, salutes, and leaves the room::

Host CTO_Lt_Grey-feather says:
Raiser: Time to go Lieutenant.  I have to get some chow and report in

CTO_Lt_Raiser says:
Grey_feather: Sorry, I'll be gone now ::Gets up to leave::